FEB. 9TH 2016 will be 12 years. Please sign the petition and get the FBI involved. Thank You
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FEB. 9TH 2016 will be 12 years. Please sign the petition and get the FBI involved. Thank You
December 27, 2015 at 8:57 pm
Approaching 350. Should surge once HDM posts the link.
I saw your recent cop impersonator post there. Sure got me thinking …
Also in the news: Saw a vid response to Ep 18 … some guy managed
to connect 15 year-old dots (!?!) that convincingly outs CNH as a
“Coast-to-CoastAM” nut. Surprise! That “Time Traveler 2037”
jazz doesn’t sit well with some readers. Supposedly he’s
hiking one of the coordinates well-known to police.
It would be great if he finds something relevant
but more likely he’ll find two fresh piles of
steaming dog dew.
Now I know why he’s “distancing himself” from the case.
I think it’s more the other way around.
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December 27, 2015 at 9:29 pm
I am not sure where Mr. Cold is coming from at this point. That really does not matter to Me and the outcome it will have.
To each their own…………….
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December 27, 2015 at 10:56 pm
“I am not sure where Mr. Cold is coming from at this point.”
Mars, that’s where. No two ways about it.
It has nothing to do with him trying to tear me a new one the other day.
Rather it has to do with his definition of “honesty” and why he won’t answer
for this “Coast-to-CoastAM” connection. For someone so interested in integrity
he seems to believe he’s above our inquiries. Too bad. He did have some
interesting input. For now I’m filing him under “Drama Queen”.
Let’s see if he has a “Big Announcement” after he returns from his NH pub crawl.
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December 27, 2015 at 11:17 pm
LOL
You got that right on the Drama Queen thing. He feels he owes nobody any explanation. The NH trip should be interesting.
Wonder IF He will look me up.
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December 28, 2015 at 12:44 am
As a joke, I told him to say “Hi” to you. I’d seen he’d already written his “Distancing” manifesto, figured you were on to him, so that’s when I dug up the C2C thing.
People with agendas such as CNH “when I talk people listen”, yes, he said that, don’t help these cases proceed.
Bottom line, there’s way too many missing people. Just read last week of an unidentified person whose body was in storage just one county over for years but no one talked to one another. Finally someone did and that case was closed. So even in the iNet age, communication remains very, very poor.
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December 28, 2015 at 1:16 am
He wants to remain anonymous so I will have to be blindfolded to meet him. LOL
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December 28, 2015 at 1:07 am
I gotta laugh on the Foreign Psychic Dude that James Renner posted….What a fucking JOKE!
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December 28, 2015 at 1:17 am
Yes…….that was quite intriguing for sure. LOL
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December 28, 2015 at 1:52 am
Weeelll … I’ve harbored a few whopper theories myself; I keep an open mind. But yeah, there is an awful lot of navel gazing over there. Guilty as charged. I even read where JR chastised John Green writing novellas, not posts. Comical. But it sure ain’t Reddit or Topix. Those places are sewers.
Sure hope that if and when The Feds step in some serious questioning resumes.
It’s a slow town. Cops get lazy. I can see some protocol not followed due to the initial routine nature of the accident but storing that car in someone’s personal garage is very alarming. UNLOCKED. And Witness A. And … AND …
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December 28, 2015 at 2:03 am
Just wait til the next podcast in a week or so. Yeeeeee hawwwwww.
The kettle will be getting hotter.
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December 28, 2015 at 3:31 am
Awesome. I want this WRAPPED too. Of course, I hope she’s alive …
… but if she is, she’s badly damaged. I still hold hope that gal DID see her in Cumby’s.
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December 28, 2015 at 3:51 am
Was there a reported sighting of her in a Cumbys? Someone elaborate, if you don’t mind.. I hadn’t heard that, I don’t think…
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December 28, 2015 at 4:05 am
Law of the Land
Not to be a downer but trying to find exactly what circumstances allow the FBI to inject themselves into a local or state investigation.
Federal law gives the FBI authority to investigate all federal crime not assigned exclusively to another federal agency (28, Section 533 of the U.S. Code.) Title 28, U.S. Code, Section 533, authorizes the attorney general to appoint officials to detect and prosecute crimes against the United States. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3052, specifically authorizes special agents and officials of the FBI to make arrests, carry firearms, and serve warrants. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3107, empowers special agents and officials to make seizures under warrant for violation of federal statutes. The FBI’s authority to investigate specific criminal violations is conferred by numerous other congressional statutes—such as the Congressional Assassination, Kidnapping, and Assault Act (Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 351). The FBI has special investigative jurisdiction to investigate violations of state law in limited circumstances, specifically felony killings of state law enforcement officers (28 U.S.C. § 540), violent crimes against interstate travelers (28 U.S.C. § 540A0, and serial killers (28 U.S.C. §540B). A request by an appropriate state official is required before the FBI has authority to investigate these matters. In addition, Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 0.85, outlines the investigative and other responsibilities of the FBI, including the collection of fingerprint cards and identification records; the training of state and local law enforcement officials at the FBI National Academy; and the operation of the National Crime Information Center and the FBI Laboratory.
I know from personal experience that issues with the performance or lack of from local law enforcement and disiplinary action has to be taken to the governing body. Selectman or Alderman.
It seems on the surface anyway that the only way the FBI can take this case is to be given authority by state officials.
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December 28, 2015 at 1:37 pm
When the WHOLE town is corrupt it is pretty difficult to get them to invite the FBI. This is the issue. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
The Silent Conspiracy…!
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December 28, 2015 at 2:17 pm
This town is not alone in it’s small town potential corruption. Way to common. Now what is to say that the FBI gets enough demand from we the people that their PERSUASION CONVINCES the State to allow them to take a look see.
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December 28, 2015 at 2:33 pm
I think it will work especially IF mainstream media picks up the story. I am working on that now.
Wish me luck
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December 28, 2015 at 9:22 pm
Les, thanks for your input. I realize this is an uphill fight and perhaps we’re being more than a little naive. (I claim the naivete credit.) Supposedly the guy who shot it down in 2009 was a Mr Chuck West. He acted a little more than creepy to the Pi who made the case to The Feds then. We don’t know West’s motivation. We DO know that NH can benefit from this case being pulled from them because the MM case is reputed to be the most costly in the state’s history. If I was the Governor, I’d BLESS it to The Feds to save Big Buck$$$. Naturally state residents don’t know this but if they did they’d get on it and SIGN.
Now, three other issues: First, WordPress is being unfriendly to my crummy browser. Yeah, I know. Safari sucks. Couldn’t get here or at Freeze Miser’s site.
Mr Freeze: He’ll be missing for awhile freezing his butt off looking for his lost mind. I have it on good authority that a rogue bear is having trouble chewing on him ‘cuz his flesh is a little rubbery. What kind of a dumb ass would wait until the temps dip to troll around up in The White Mountains? Climbing up is one thing it’s climbing DOWN that’s the problem. Still, I wish him luck. Luck he doesn’t manage to do himself in. Prediction: LE will have to fish his ass outta there by helicopter.
Lastly, far more importantly, what’s going on with the petition? I saw on the Twitter feed (no I’m not a member) that some asshat(s) are flagging it. I’d LOVE to see the comments or whatever is going down. I’ve been afraid of something like this since there is a form to challenge any petition just below each one. Jeez, some people are real pricks. So far the trolls haven’t derailed it. So far, so good.
I’ll shut up now.
Cheers.
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December 29, 2015 at 5:58 pm
Les, you seem adept at finding legal prose. Would you mind finding an obscure loophole that would FORCE The FBi into this? You know, like those weird Blue Laws that still reside on the books in some states? Or at least find an attorney pro bono who can?
There has to be some line out there that disqualifies local involvement if major incompetence is found. I think impounding that Saturn in a private garage leaves very little room to interpretation.
That would really help here, thanks.
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December 29, 2015 at 8:03 pm
Not sure if I can be of much help but let me see what I can dig up. I have a relative that is a retired Fed. (different branch). Time to go pick a brain.
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December 29, 2015 at 8:13 pm
Awesome….We will look forward to any info from the pros..!
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December 30, 2015 at 3:21 am
Les! You be da man. Thank You kindly.
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December 28, 2015 at 8:09 am
Sara, one witness who was unfamiliar with the MM case at the time of her sighting claims she entered a Cumberland Farms in Hillsborough, NH in 2006 and a gal was with an older guy in line in front of her. The gal in line had her arms folded and she turned to the witness and appeared to mouth the words, “Help me.” By the time the witness learned of the case and reported it some months had passed.
According to author James Renner’s blog, MM was “seen” a second time with a child at a house in that same town. This sighting happened sometime before 2011.
Another sighting occurred in Barton, VT.
Yet another sighting occurred within days or weeks of her disappearance near the NH/Canada border. According to the witness, he was a boy staying with a relative at the time and a young woman came knocking asking for shelter as she was “running from some men.”
The thrust of Renner’s blog is he thinks she ran off to Sherbrooke, Canada as other sightings center there.
There have been other random sighting around the globe. Searches have yielded nothing. The fact is, without proof, these claims have little substance. What with the proliferation of camera phones nowadays makes these claims even less likely. We all have dopplegangers.
Personally I lean towards abduction, fate unknown. Three possible clues: An empty black backpack that may have been hers was found off a scenic stop east of the scene. Around 2009 a hunter claims he found duct tape with hair on it in an area near the accident scene. The A-frame house within a mile of there may hold the answer. Then there’s another dilapidated house in the neighborhood that’s worth digging around.
Getting the FBi involved means that investigators handling the case can and will be questioned. We think that will turn some stones and at least verify a sloppy investigation.
In the possible but unlikely event she wandered from the scene and died in the elements, we think some evidence would have been found by now. The Ammonoosuc River is shallow.
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December 28, 2015 at 9:19 pm
Mac, I’ve heard of all of those sightings except the two in Hillsboro area. Are these two sightings something Renner reported?
I have a theory, which I don’t voice often. I partially agree with your theory, but I heavily lean towards police involvement. Especially after Johns recent witness accounts, & after having done some research into ex chief, JW, & finding a message board with posts by Haverhill residents. He was clearly not a popular man, and his character was called into question. I think those town folk were onto something. I’ll just say that.
John, why does witness A want to remain anonymous? Does she fear retribution for her reports? Does she just not want to be involved?
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December 28, 2015 at 9:32 pm
Hey Sara, sorry for the novella. I’m very long-winded.
Yes, both were reported at JR’s site. I’m skeptical. It’s been a very long time and nothing more has come from Hillsborough. Those two sightings are the best hope we have she’s being held captive. The problem with this is the guy was older and her youth would give her the upper hand. So I’m very slightly optimistic.
Bottom Line for all Maura Murray Sighting Witnesses: TAKE. A. FRIGGIN’. PICTURE. ALREADY. Even I have a flip phone now!!!
What I’d like to know is why JR thinks some of John’s assertions are untrue. John CAN’T just put stuff out there without getting into trouble himself.
Frankly, I’ve learned more about this case in the last month than since I stumbled upon it. I can’t even remember when or how that was! That bugs me almost as much. Dang, I’m gettin’ old.
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December 28, 2015 at 9:34 pm
Witness “A” is known to Haverhill LE. I am trying to speak with her again in an attempt for a recorded interview.
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December 28, 2015 at 9:48 pm
That’s good. Hopefully time has sharpened and not dulled the memory. It’s not working in MY favor, I can tell you for sure.
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December 28, 2015 at 9:59 pm
No problem Mac.
That’s why I asked. At this point I really don’t trust things reported by Renner. It’s almost as if he’s scared of the police, like they have something on him. To me, and of course this is only my opinion, but he does a lot of ass kissing in regards to LE. If you’re a true journalist, & your motives are altruistic, I’d imagine you want to dig into every nook & cranny. But, I don’t see that.
I’m optimistic in the notion that sooner or later, (hopefully sooner) the truth will come out, & the Murrays will have closure. I’m not optimistic that she’s been held somewhere for 12 years. Unfortunately, I don’t believe MM is alive.
I agree, you’d think somewhere during one of these sightings, someone would of thought to take a picture!!
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December 28, 2015 at 10:54 pm
Yeah, Renner is a puzzler. But he’s been huge keeping the case alive, book or not. He does offer new angles all the time. That’s good and bad. Lately I want LESS theory and angles and more substance.
Why JR mods police conspiracy posts is clear: LE won’t take his input seriously unless he mods out such posts and I believe they’ve told his as such. So, he’s compromised, voluntarily or not. That doesn’t mean his theory or motivations are wrong, mind you.
“Will the Internet Find Maura Murray?” Hopeful, but I doubt it. Too much noise and time under the bridge. Will the case ever be solved? Same.
I’m frequently wrong. I sure as Hell hope I am here.
I want her found alive. If she is, I hope she talks. Not just about where she was but how it all went down and how it was possible for her to remain hidden for so long. It would give us and LE intelligence on how criminal agencies work or at least how someone can successfully stay off the grid.
Human trafficking has become huge. We need knowledge on how rings operate to keep the vulnerable safe. I got a kid so I have skin in this. One BIG reason why I read.
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December 28, 2015 at 11:29 pm
John, when you say witness A is known to LE, do you mean law-enforcement has heard her story?
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December 28, 2015 at 11:33 pm
Yes Sara
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December 28, 2015 at 11:40 pm
Mac, I’m with in regards to substance. I think that’s why I’ve really taken to this blog, & Johns interviews. I think he’s the best chance there is at solving this, and bringing closure, of one kind or another to the Murrays.
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December 29, 2015 at 12:59 am
Btw- the duct tape with hair on it, found by a hunter…. Was it given to police? Was there DNA testing done?
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December 29, 2015 at 4:39 am
John answered Jeanne this question under the “Merry Christmas” post.
Yes and unknown.
It was found 12 miles away near Rt 112 about 5-7 years ago. A very important clue or irrelevant, just as the carpet samples that were supposedly lifted and untested for two years, at least from what I read.
Those still are more people who could talk in detail: The Pi group that descended on the A-frame and the hunter who found the tape.
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December 29, 2015 at 1:56 pm
It was given to LE……
Was it tested…..Who really knows for sure.
The only thing they ever ruled out way back in 2004 was the underwear found by her sister Kat.
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December 29, 2015 at 4:47 pm
The underwear … yet another cold case?
((( Left Turn )))
So, I saw the Twitter posts on Mr Freeze’s sojourn into The Abyss. I spit out my coffee when I read this:
“Man trying to ‘travel through time’ smashes car through two businesses
“A car plowed through two Pensacola, Florida businesses on Sunday and the driver reportedly told police he was ‘trying to travel through time.’ No one was injured but the offices were decimated.”
COMEDY GOLD.
Yeah, that time traveling thingy can be risky.
John, are the choppers into recovery mode yet? Me, I’m curling up to nice roaring fire tonight.
If Mr Freeze thought he was being messed before with I wonder what he thinks now. Karma’s a B.
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December 29, 2015 at 4:53 pm
Yes…..It is like the Golden Gloves of the satire world. He will be taking some hits on this one. We’ll see if He can take the punches.
Haven’t heard the choppers yet….but don’t think I will bc most likely He is sitting at the Red Parka Pub in Bartlett enjoying a cold Guiness and enjoying the local journey back into time….that is NH.
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December 29, 2015 at 5:36 pm
Ah! thankee for the pub recommendation. I really need another trip up north. Should be some good deals this winter. Wife is not a winter lover BUT I can get her on the ski trails. Lucky me.
No, I don’t suspect Mr Freeze is going to take it well. He’s the very same “Angry Young Man” Billy Joel sang about.
And there’s always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
He’s never been able to learn from mistakes
He can’t understand why his heart always breaks
He’s honest and pure and has courage as well
He’s fair and he’s true, and he’s boring as hell
And he’ll go to his grave as an angry old man.
Possibly a damnaged jenius, I dunno. Maybe he’s trying to atone for his Company Man activities as a corporate accountant. He sure comes off as thoughtful in his posts … but he blathers on endlessly, as if he’s trying to shout through imaginary walls. I suspect he’s taken one too many tabs of brown acid.
Cold N “Whenever I Talk, People Listen” Holefield. Trollus Emeritus Anus.
Enough of him already.
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December 29, 2015 at 6:02 pm
Priceless post…!
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December 29, 2015 at 6:01 pm
I have chatted before to you John, you may had an alias name though.
Answer me one HUGE question, if you can.
Since LE Mr. Cecil Smith, as we both know was NOT the only officer on scene, why hasn’t the other officer’s named been put out there and let the masses look at the full facts? You know exactly who I am refering to, and When I try to put the NH state man’s name out there so he also can be looked at, everybody gets hush hush. I know he is now a cheif in another city. Why doesnt the public have a right to know what his name was, what his actions were that night, what can HE add to the story? NO ONE can count him out of the equation no matter how “nice” people claim he is!
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December 29, 2015 at 6:04 pm
Well Jeff Williams was the Chief of Haverhill and has some definite issues.
Trooper John Monaghan of the NHSP now is the Chief of Franconia NH.
He is fair game If there is info that is viable to the case. I will not throw away any info or deny anyone their theories.
have at it….!
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December 29, 2015 at 6:16 pm
I am speaking of John Monaghan.
He is the only person on the scene of that crash that night whose story of where he came from, what he saw, and where he went that has not been “told” to the public. Why the secrecy to it?
I brought it up to Renner and he said he has talked to JM and he is an outstanding guy.
That may be true but that doesnt mean he shouldnt be looked at twice in regards to that night. Then Renner basically said to me in a not very nice way to “back off”.
Then when I try to bring up the subject in MM blogs I am treated as a “trouble maker”.
Very strange to be treated like that when I am only trying to use logic and common sense and rule out all parties of that fateful night.
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December 29, 2015 at 6:26 pm
I agree with You 100%…..no stone shall remain unturned. There are people out their with an agenda and that is to protect local LE at all expense. My best guess would be they are former LE or connected to them in some way.
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December 29, 2015 at 6:37 pm
Awnsnan, I absolutely agree as well.
I hate to think there are bad cops but they exist. Take Serpico, the whistleblower.
On a lesser but very important level as an example, it is rumored that Jeff Williams drank while driving his shift. If true, that is at least a violation of the public trust. So it begs the question:
What ELSE was going on up there?
I saw JR’s response to posters’ inquiries on potential police complicity: “(Bleep) may be an asshole but he didn’t kill Maura Murray.” Really? Based on what? His word? Oh my.
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December 29, 2015 at 7:14 pm
Yeah….Renner spoke with these guys once and gave the them “The Thumbs Up, good by Jimmy” approval.
Come on…..is Renner now a profiler..?
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December 30, 2015 at 3:25 am
I don’t want to dump on James Renner. I know he’s controversial, but I think his heart is in the right place. I suppose it’s true if one doesn’t make any enemies in life than one is vanilla.
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